A few years ago, I stumbled across an APBA message board that contained one of the more interesting debates about the game I have ever read. The site, Dephi Forums, contains hundreds of discussions about the games APBA makes, the cards issued, the anticipation surround the release of new seasons and sports talk in general. It also contains recaps of replays the various gamers do and includes box scores, write ups and standings. It's a fantastic site for all things APBA.
But I also saw one thread that may have begun one of the greatest debates of all time, even surpassing the Chicken-Egg, Blue Dress/Gold Dress and Less Filling, More Taste conundrums we've wrestled with.
One gamer wrote that he plays the ABPA game on his computer. He said he set up the parameters for replaying a season, choosing the coaches and schedule and then, setting the thing in play as he was leaving his home. He said he returned the following day and saw the results.
And I, a dice and cards guy since Day 1 in 1977, thought, "what's the point in that?" He had the season completed in his absence. The statistics were all compiled for him and the final standings presented in neat form.
But where was the fun in that? I know there are computer players who enjoy the game and probably most of them don't leave the game Instead, they participate (as best as one can on a computer) and watch the season replay unfold.
Those who know me are aware I am a complete computer idiot. I've tried to keep player and team statistics several times by computer. Each time, though, my computer crashes and I fail to back up the stats. The last time, I had my 1991 replay updated on my work computer when I got laid off the job. Seems like each time I try to compile stats, technology bites me in the butt.
I've also played an APBA version of the basketball game some 30 years ago. It featured 20 great teams of the past. The player could set up the lineups and watch the games unfold. It was okay, but I felt so detached from the game, from the rolling and from watching each play ensue, that I soon quit and returned to the sluggish dice and cards game of APBA's roundball back then.
I've been playing the baseball game for nearly 20 years now. I was a late bloomer, getting into this game first with the football and basketball and later the hockey game. I'd never, ever consider playing the baseball game with a computer.
There's something about holding each player's card in hand while rolling the dice. Doing it that way puts you into the game and gives you some control of the outcome.
I'm reminded once of being at a casino in some small Mississippi town. Several people were working the slot machines in one row, repetitively pushing a button to set the things in motion. I noticed the slack-jawed look on each. The motions were mindless, almost factory-line in their choreographing. It took nothing other than pushing a button when the noise stopped each time. A trained chicken could have pecked the button with more enthusiasm. The gamblers showed little emotion and they weren't really part of it. They were on the outside, looking in, so to speak.
Obviously, I'm not comparing computer players to mindless drones (or chickens, either). And, again those who know me realize, with my extreme ignorance of all things computing, me talking about that is like Forrest Gump talking about the intricacies of NASA's space program.
But even though it takes forever, I'm sticking with cards and dice, rolling seasons game by game. I began the 1991 season in August 2015. It will soon be three years since I rolled that first game of the replay and I'm only about 65 percent done. I could have fed the information into the computer, left for a weekend and had the entire season done with stats finished, winners declared and a sense of accomplishment fulfilled.
Instead, I'll chug along at my turtle-like pace and enjoy each game, savoring the season as it develops and noticing all the nuances of the teams and players as they slowly make their way through the replay.
And maybe, just maybe, since I am a techno idiot, if I can find my old slide rule, I can start doing those stats again.
Someone described the difference as traveling -- you can fly cross-country and be there right away ...
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ReplyDeleteLove the part about the gamblers. I know more people who play comp than who play dice, but for me it will always be cards and dice and it will always be APBA. I do envy the ease of the stats people have with the comp, but I am always afraid of losing everything half way through, and so I stick with pencil and calculator. Besides, I have done it that way since i was 12--with a slide rule the first season!--and it feels natural. But while I get the allure of computerized stats, i do not get the notion of playing the actual games that way. (And don't even get me started on auto-plays.) I have done 12 season replays and have realized that when I finish a season, all I do is start another, so what's the rush? Dig the ride. I do replays to let the season unfold as it actually does, over time, and to let the personalities of the players show themselves. One guy has a knack for timely hits, another guy is the king of the meaningless two out hit. One guy is made of glass and can't stay on the field, another guy likes to pick on a certain team (like my 1967 Don Mincher, who absolutely destroyed his old team, the Twins, at every opportunity.) They're cardboard cards, they shouldn't have personalities, but anyone who has ever played a season with cards and dice knows that they DO. I naturally want my stats to have some similarity to what actually happened. I don't want Mario Mendoza hitting .350 with 20 HR. But neither do i want to just replicate exactly what happened in real. I'm playing 1964 MLB right now (I am at May 22nd) and I consider 1964 a framework, not a straitjacket. I don't use actual line-ups; why would I want to replicate Bobby Bragan's goofy-ass Braves line-ups that the players hated? Half the fun is seeing if i can goose my favorite teams to the top. Finally, APBA cards have so much personality. Unlike any other replay cards, and certainly unlike computer, I can look at any APBA card and pretty much see what that guy is about. I like holding them in my hand, or rifling through my bullpen options, or dipping into the "minors" for a guy, all on cards and I can see and touch. I LOVE the roll of the dice, just like the pitch being delivered and that suspended moment when you wonder, "Will it be a strikeout? A Home run? What?" and then as soon as I see the result, I know 66 means he crushed it, 41 means uh-oh, and so forth, just like the sound of the ball off the bat. I might have to look to see if it's a homer or a double, but i know it's slugged. The dice rolling fast against the side of the rolling box and coming up with result 13 means he blew it by him! Strike three! I can't even express how much I love it.
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ReplyDeleteRemember it is a hobby. Whichever way you go is the right way.
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